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Mar 17, 2026, Mozilla released a blog post titled "More reasons to love Firefox: What’s new now, and what’s coming soon
" [1]

Reading some of it makes the title wrong, its more reasons to hate Firefox, let me explain:
An easier way to personalize Firefox

The Settings section has been improved with clear navigation and search, so it’s simpler to customize Firefox. Available soon in Firefox Nightly.
beside not giving any screenshot, I wanted to be accurate in my roasting so I shoved the nightly version into my hard disk and executed it, and I compared the settings panel with version 140.5.0esr,

The difference is so minor, some icons here and there and minor layout changes, was I living in a cave for thinking firefox settings panel was already easy to use.

NEXT !
Privacy upgrades, built in

A free built-in VPN is coming to Firefox. Free VPNs can sometimes mean sketchy arrangements that end up compromising your privacy, but ours is built from our data principles and commitment to be the world’s most trusted browser. It routes your browser traffic through a proxy to hide your IP address and location while you browse, giving you stronger privacy and protection online with no extra downloads. Users will have 50 gigabytes of data monthly in the U.S., France, Germany and U.K. to start. Available in Firefox 149 starting March 24.
Beside no body asked for this anyway, is the 50 GB only for these 4 countries? like are you RACISTS? what about the poor people living in netherlands or the starving children of spain? have you considered the homeless in hungry?

now about the "sketch arrangements", first things first, mozilla is already known for this, recall when they changed their data collection policy? [2]
Also the trust in those "arrangements" is equal, trusting mozilla or trusting some random VPN is equally risky, so that's a useless move.

NEXT !
We also recently shared that Firefox is the first browser to ship Sanitizer API, a new web security standard that blocks attacks before they reach you.
This is more depressing news than a happy one, because firefox is FIRST to impliment this XSS protection API, it means very few sites, if any has it implimented yet, because firefox isn't even the most popular browser.

so this isn't some feature that saves you from XSS vulnerabilities, its basically an API for developers to make safer sites, which means as of now, its useless.

NEXT !
New tools to get more done

Smart Window, previously called AI Window, uses AI to give quick help while you browse — like quick definitions, article summaries, product comparisons and more — without leaving the page. It’s completely optional to use and will be opt in. Waitlist now open for updates and early access.
I am not against saving time, but the expected result from this tool is decreased brain [3], and basically loss of details,

I already have stupid gemini on every google search removed using ublock origin, the garbage AI already summorizes stuff, so does mozilla want to compete with that? like why don't you remain calm like meta does? with their meta AI being the humiliation of LLMs.


Anyhow, I won't test nor use it, and assuming I want to use an AI to summorize stuff, I would use some top tier stuff, not from a browser company.

NEXT !

Split view puts two webpages side by side in one window, making it easy to compare, copy and multitask without bouncing between tabs. Rolling out in Firefox 149 on March 24.
WOOOOW

So you mean I don't have to like, drag a tab to the side and letting the OS put both side by side?
Ohh the effort saving, you saved my time, Thank you mozilla.

Jokes aside, this is garbage, like seriously, building an already built in every OS feature? reinventing the wheel? that's bad engineering.


NEXT !
Tab Notes let you add notes to any tab, another tool to help with multitasking and picking up where you left off. Available in Firefox Labs 149 starting March 24.
I guess people are going to uninstall their note taking software, possibly also trashing their pen and papers.

seriously who asked for this?

NEXT PLEASE !
We’re solely focused on building the best browser, and our features over the next few months and beyond are driven by the feedback from our community,”
Probably a community of ants or something, but I assume even ants know what a "best browser" should look like.
And as always, we’ll keep listening
Listening to the whales that is.
Firefox is also getting a fresh new look across our website, product and beyond. This includes updated themes, icons, and visual refinements across Firefox,

...

You also may have noticed something else showing up in Firefox recently: our new mascot, Kit. Kit is your companion in this new internet era, our way of making Firefox’s support visible and bringing a little warmth and familiarity as you browse.
That mascot is cringe at best, and complete idiocy for anyone who seriously cares about privacy and picked firefox for one reason or another.

Imagine you are so serious about privacy, you hate big tech collecting data, training their A.Is, you hear the news that Department of war is forcing A.I companies to sign contracts [4]

You seriously FEAR mass servillance and the on growing dictatorshiping of the western goverinments and their imposing of control using electronic means.

All of that in your mind, you go and meet a stupid mascot because "hehe cute".

Choosing Firefox means using the internet on your own terms: options when you want them, safety when it matters most, and tools that make the web easier to navigate.
Get lost.


1- https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/fir ... -features/
2- https://www.osnews.com/story/141813/moz ... fox-users/
3- https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.08872
4- https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-st ... rtment-war
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lostuser wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 5:36 am Pedophile muslim loses his mind and has a mental breakdown over mozilla
>1 free GB was added to your MozzilaVPN plan
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Cool a "free" VPN and a shitty redesign. Fuck this shit I want my 2004-2016 Firefox back.
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https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/subscription-services/

MooVPN keeps IP logs for 90 days. And it's only a frontend to Mullvad anyway. Edit: hmm. Maybe this new "in-built" one is something else, since they say it uses "Mozilla-managed" VPN servers. Still, 90 day logs of unstated contents are stored - "Logs linked to your account are automatically deleted after 3 months".
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A new benchmark by Proronix showcased how chrome is ahead of firefox in most benchmarks. [1]

I consider optimization, performance and stability a priority over new useless features.

[1]- https://www.phoronix.com/review/firefox-chrome-2026/4
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LoadingXML wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:23 pm A new benchmark by Proronix showcased how chrome is ahead of firefox in most benchmarks. [1]

I consider optimization, performance and stability a priority over new useless features.

[1]- https://www.phoronix.com/review/firefox-chrome-2026/4
Wasn't chrome always ahead of firefox in these? It's to be expected considering jewgle runs both and also creates web standards
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qualia wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:44 pm Wasn't chrome always ahead of firefox in these? It's to be expected considering jewgle runs both and also creates web standards
Issue is not being inferior to chrome, but remaining inferior to chrome.

Assuming any independece, mozilla supposed to seek to out perform chrome, but it doesnt.
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LoadingXML wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 6:26 pm Assuming any independece
It's widely known that Mozilla is a subsidiary of Google and Firefox only exists to dance around antitrust laws.
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moeloli wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 8:12 am
LoadingXML wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2026 6:26 pm Assuming any independece
It's widely known that Mozilla is a subsidiary of Google and Firefox only exists to dance around antitrust laws.
What is confirmed and widely known ig google funding mozilla to put google as defualt search engine.

Less commonly known is google funding apple safari for same reason.

But somehow apple isn't considered a subsidiary.
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LoadingXML wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 5:06 pm What is confirmed and widely known ig google funding mozilla to put google as defualt search engine.

Less commonly known is google funding apple safari for same reason.

But somehow apple isn't considered a subsidiary.
>But somehow apple isn't considered a subsidiary.
Gee, I wonder why... maybe it has something to do with Apple doing something other than making browsers and not getting 90% of its funding from Google?
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moeloli wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 5:41 pm
LoadingXML wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 5:06 pm What is confirmed and widely known ig google funding mozilla to put google as defualt search engine.

Less commonly known is google funding apple safari for same reason.

But somehow apple isn't considered a subsidiary.
>But somehow apple isn't considered a subsidiary.
Gee, I wonder why... maybe it has something to do with Apple doing something other than making browsers and not getting 90% of its funding from Google?

So the summory of the logic:

If your company only make one kind of products, and it is getting 90% funded from another company.

Then your company is subsidiary of the funding company, got it.



Thanks for enlightening us.
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LoadingXML wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 6:25 pm So the summory of the logic:

If your company only make one kind of products, and it is getting 90% funded from another company.

Then your company is subsidiary of the funding company, got it.



Thanks for enlightening us.
For all intents and purposes, isn't that what it comes down to? Or are you going to be autistic about word definitions to compensate for your ghastly English?
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moeloli wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:11 pm to compensate for your ghastly English?
No, because by definition the word "subsidiary" means, in our case when it comes to companies, I quote [1] [2]:
a company that is owned by a larger company
a company wholly controlled by another

And there is no legal document you could show that Google owns or directly control Mozilla, it is will only be a matter of funding or at best an indirect control, not a subsidiary.

Bonus: It doesn't even make sense to have Mozilla as subsidiary because it is waste of money basically.

[1]-https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... subsidiary
[2]-https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subsidiary
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LoadingXML wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:34 pm And there is no legal document you could show that Google owns or directly control Mozilla, it is will only be a matter of funding or at best an indirect control, not a subsidiary.

Bonus: It doesn't even make sense to have Mozilla as subsidiary because it is waste of money basically.
moeloli clearly didn't use the term subsidiary in a strict legal sense but rather to mean "this company is de facto controlled by another" which is obvious in case of mozilla. nobody thinks that mozilla is legally a subsidiary of google but it's basically controlled opposition

also, it's not about being profitable for google, it's about avoiding anti-trust laws
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We need an English reading comprehension test as a requirement for posting.
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qualia wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:12 pm "this company is de facto controlled by another" which is obvious in case of mozilla. nobody thinks that mozilla is legally a subsidiary of google
That's what I am aruging against anyway, that Mozilla is not controlled and only funded.

Beside the initial premise that Google enforces Mozilla to make google as default search engine, there is no proof that Mozilla has to obey any orders, Mozilla could take the funding and do whatever they want with it.

Take example of Google paying Apple 18 B$, that's around 60% of the iphone development budget [1], and Safari is still a barebone outdated rusty browser compare to firefox and chrome, but Apple seems smarter then Mozilla and they take the funding and give almost nothing in return.

A "fully independent" browser such as ladybird is being funded by the so loved CloudFlare and the very amazing ProtonVPN, yet no body claimed they are being controlled.
qualia wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:12 pm
but it's basically controlled opposition
I argue its simply a dumb opposition, not a controlled one, and for some reason this is widespread in the browsers ecosystems, as even browsers that supposely is a compatitor to chomre, such as edge, are so useless (and don't get cheated by that 5% global use, it is soley because windows makes it so hard to change the default browser, and some people are lazy enough to keep it).
qualia wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:12 pm
also, it's not about being profitable for google, it's about avoiding anti-trust laws
They could take off the funding and still avoid anti-trust laws, there are now more competiting browsers, Chrome isn't playing monopoly, it just happens to be a very good browser in terms of performance (Yes even according to my expereience, chromium based browsers outperform firefox based one).
moeloli wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 11:20 pm We need an English reading comprehension test as a requirement for posting.
Sorry for misunderstanding you, you know, not everyone here is a wheity infidel that lacks hospitality.
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Sadly, Mozilla is now following the same trend as Opera and Edge and rounded the corners of the viewport.

Also, the new redesign looks infantile (like Android Lollipop back in 2014).

Sure, you can edit userChrome.css to get rid of it, but this shouldn't be necessary.
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TechLord wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 9:36 pm Sadly, Mozilla is now following the same trend as Opera and Edge and rounded the corners of the viewport.
Remeber when they increased the tab size back at version 89? they bloated the top bar so much you would require a TV screen to use as monitor lol.

Bonus: and if you used that version with GOYNOME than an extra 10% of your top of the screen is gone because GOYNOME enforces for windowing stuff (i.e the title bar) that the software has to disable + its own native topbar (unless you changed its location).


Bonus 2: imagine you use that monster and you enter a site that has a fixed navbar lol, say goodbye to 50% of your screen, you better borrow a monitor from an ANT since that would be cheaper.
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Theundercoverman_ wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 3:29 pm Cool a "free" VPN and a shitty redesign. Fuck this shit I want my 2004-2016 Firefox back.
You mean 2004-2013.

Firefox "Australis" 29 in 2014 brought Chrome-ish rounded tabs. I prefer squarish tabs. But back then, a XUL extension could change it back. Also, they removed the ability to add custom toolbars.
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TechLord wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 1:38 pm
Theundercoverman_ wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 3:29 pm Cool a "free" VPN and a shitty redesign. Fuck this shit I want my 2004-2016 Firefox back.
You mean 2004-2013.

Firefox "Australis" 29 in 2014 brought Chrome-ish rounded tabs. I prefer squarish tabs. But back then, a XUL extension could change it back. Also, they removed the ability to add custom toolbars.
Or 2004-2010, before Firefox 4 came along.

I wish there was a browser with the look, feel, and behavior of classic Firefox, the security of Chromium, and the privacy of LibreWolf and UGC with support for MV2 or XUL extensions and no bloat or AI bullshit I didn't ask for. In other words, Firefox if it never changed past version 28 other than security fixes and bug fixes and the only new features added are related to security or privacy.
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I think the split view will be useful for people on MacOS since there is no native window snapping. Otherwise I wish Mozilla would stop adding user facing complexity to firefox asside from is necessitated by being secondary to Chrom(e/ium).
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TechLord wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 1:38 pm
Theundercoverman_ wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 3:29 pm Cool a "free" VPN and a shitty redesign. Fuck this shit I want my 2004-2016 Firefox back.
You mean 2004-2013.

Firefox "Australis" 29 in 2014 brought Chrome-ish rounded tabs. I prefer squarish tabs. But back then, a XUL extension could change it back. Also, they removed the ability to add custom toolbars.
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ironcastor wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 8:58 pm https://basilisk-browser.org/
This existed for years and I never heard of it? Thanks. I will give it a try soon.
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ironcastor wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 8:58 pm https://basilisk-browser.org/
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i've been using basilisk for quite awhile, i strongly recommend it for you people
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Ironic how privacy and security concerned people that supposedly are smarter and more skilled than average privacy normie seem to care about looks and retro style more than technical details.

Anyhow I stopped having high expectations from these people.

For those who aren't part of it, I recommend oneflux's firefox fork (assuming you could find it) or librewolf or ungoogled chromium.

These are good, modern browser bases, altho bloated but they do the job well.

Harden them with as much addons as you could find and even develop your own if you are skilled enough, and try to modify them to avoid font fingerprinting.
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I don't think there's actually people like that outdoors, in real life, they're mostly neets or bots, I also find amusing that people whom expect anything from people, or even better, ascii characters, exist.
I personally cannot see any 'security' in a computer acessing other computers worldwide, this has never been secure, it will never be, Firefox is slow and shoving 30 privacy extensions will just slow it down even more, not enhance one's privacy/security, it's all a cope.
AmigaOS was a single user operating system, there was only a superuser, everything you ran had privleged access to your hardware, and I can't recall any Amiga user concerned about privacy, security or if someone were spying on them in the 90s, maybe because most computer users weren't always connected back in the day? how are you gonna spy on a computer without something establishing a connection between the parties?. why am i talking about this? seems a bit off-topic, indeed, i am declaring that one's computer cannot be 'private' if you plugged an rj45 cable in it, you can only remediate it utmost
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