lostuser wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2026 11:26 pm
IIRC 9larp.net is supposed to be temporarily down. Maybe i am mistaken.
34th time in a row
What the fuck are you even ranting about here.
My opinion exaggeratedly drafted
Theres a list of software that has been ported to and works on derive so they are evil?
Nah
It is a pretty small project, and they only "support" a small amount of software that is relevant to the people that actually use it. You could build and run whatever trash you want on your own accord and im sure nobody would care or seriously criticize you for it..
My point was: It's honestly useless, Nobody is using this as a daily driver; it's a [research] atypical Linux distro. I meant to say I don't like being closed in such ecosystem; what if I actually want to use a program that sucks? It'd never work for me (This also applies for the suckless.org meme). if something works for them or you; it doesn't mean everybody should start using it, X with it's own quirks, erratic code and it's enormous library of bad and good programs which support it, just works™ for me.
You think these people are evil
No I don't, in fact I don't really mind, I'm actually fond of Windows NT and other Microsoft products :), I was just pointing out that cuz they were sort of the opposition at the time, of course they would want to make their product look better.
Wait until you find out who created UNIX.
Ken and Dennis whom in my humble opinion are pests and—i'm not sure if this is true or not—I believe Bell Labs subcontracted Mexicans, that's why it's so bad
This point still isnt entirely relevant to derive and its associated software though.
It's a Linux distro so honestly I wouldn't call it "independent"
Ok so now we are just moral fagging. Now it makes more sense as to why you brought up the last section, another wierd attempt at moral fagging.
I showed their morals because I think it's good knowledge about them, why wouldn't you wanna know? It's also complementary
But I guess this goes back to how the XLibre crowd love mixing in strange political stuff given any random opportunity, instead of making actually relevant points about the software itself
I'm not part of the XLibre crowd neither I use XLibre, and Free software is inherently political. I honestly don't see any problem upon seeing people put politics on their project, either being leftist cuck ideals or right-wing cuck ideals, it's their project. derive and it's community are also very political, so why not talk about that?
[3] was supposed to be a complementary block of text, don't take as if it is a point of mine
The wayland protocol itself is much simpler than X
I said that
The actual problem is wlroots which has many linuxisms and doesnt work very well on other systems. This is exactly one of the things that can be solved by having a better wayland stack.
Exactly, although my point was: it isn't usable at the moment and it will never be near feature rich as X11
If you want something to be more usable and to have better things, then write some code or stfu until someone else gets to it.
Why should I write better software for a rotten base?
its just that the whole XLibre thing really doesnt solve the X11 or freedesktop issue, and there are better ways that we can.
I said that at the end of the text.
Honestly I think XLibre is just a conspiracy made by IBM to slow down our progress, the main developer nearly knows C, and this is something expected from someone who worked on freedesktop.org
I said in my first post there are still completely valid reasons (like using legacy hardware) for X11.
Off topic but I'd thankful if you drafted your definition of "legacy hardware'
just as a reminder, the original point was that wayland is better than X, from a perspective of design and simplicity..
That's not enough to classify a software as good; by this logic, FreeDOS is way better than Linux or BSD.
