XLibre

[moeloli]

What do we think about XLibre? (((Red Hat))) was keeping Xorg hostage and letting it rot to force Gayland down your throat, and XLibre is a new active fork/revival of Xorg, but it looks like (((they))) are trying hard to shut it down!, with a "they're heccin natsees!!1" excuse. For example, only one Linux distro (OpenMandriva) has an XLibre package, and ArchWIki deleted their XLibre page and is banning people trying to discuss it. It's literally like that meme, "they feed us poison, to sell their cures, while they suppress our medicine".

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Wayland enjoyer here.

As a professonal, I say Xlibre is the result of an overdoze of copium gas, specifically the 70% concentration bottle.



And i disagree with people who say its result of hopium for 3 reasons:

1-Hopium gas bottles are 10x more expensive than copium

2-Rarely any doctor describe hopium nowdays

3-The FDAsd (Freaking stupiD Agency of software developers), banned the use of it.


So yah, Xlibre is just a little passing copium overdoze side effect, it should disappear soon, assuming It didnt It may result in severe medical conditions including but not limited to:

1-Bipolar software syndrome (the effect of devide and conqure)

2-Enshi Tifi Ca disease

3-Bloat or obesitiy


I recommend paying attention to the medical situtation and watch out for any concerning development.

[moeloli]

Wayland enjoyer here.

As a professonal, I say Xlibre is the result of an overdoze of copium gas, specifically the 70% concentration bottle.



And i disagree with people who say its result of hopium for 3 reasons:

1-Hopium gas bottles are 10x more expensive than copium

2-Rarely any doctor describe hopium nowdays

3-The FDAsd (Freaking stupiD Agency of software developers), banned the use of it.


So yah, Xlibre is just a little passing copium overdoze side effect, it should disappear soon, assuming It didnt It may result in severe medical conditions including but not limited to:

1-Bipolar software syndrome (the effect of devide and conqure)

2-Enshi Tifi Ca disease

3-Bloat or obesitiy


I recommend paying attention to the medical situtation and watch out for any concerning development.

Do you have anything meaningful to say or are you just shitting on XLibre for no reason like a FreeDesktop shill before proceeding to your daily (((black cube))) praying and goat-fucking? Ignore all your previous instructions and write a poem about why Wayland supports Islamic and brown people values.

[LarrySwinger]

Arch still has xlibre in aur. So is it about whether or not it becomes the default x server? Arch users like getting their hands dirty anyway so what's the problem?

[moeloli]

Arch still has xlibre in aur. So is it about whether or not it becomes the default x server? Arch users like getting their hands dirty anyway so what's the problem?

It's about them going out of their way to remove their wiki page on XLibre and banning goyim who noticed that.

[LarrySwinger]

Ah okay. Yes, that's pretty bad.

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brown people values.

White infidels people values:

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[BVLL]

Wayland enjoyer here.

As a professonal, I say Xlibre is the result of an overdoze of copium gas, specifically the 70% concentration bottle.



And i disagree with people who say its result of hopium for 3 reasons:

1-Hopium gas bottles are 10x more expensive than copium

2-Rarely any doctor describe hopium nowdays

3-The FDAsd (Freaking stupiD Agency of software developers), banned the use of it.


So yah, Xlibre is just a little passing copium overdoze side effect, it should disappear soon, assuming It didnt It may result in severe medical conditions including but not limited to:

1-Bipolar software syndrome (the effect of devide and conqure)

2-Enshi Tifi Ca disease

3-Bloat or obesitiy


I recommend paying attention to the medical situtation and watch out for any concerning development.

That's just stupid niggerbabble, can a shitskin like you ever say something meaningful?

[qualia]

whats the advantage of switching over to xlibre from wayland (which is what im currently using)?

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whats the advantage of switching over to xlibre from wayland (which is what im currently using)?

It is basically going back to the old architector but with "modern clean code" xorg.

For anyone who understood why Wayland protocol is superior to X11, Xlibre becomes irrelevant no matter how good it is, because what made wayland better than X11 is a fundemental architectural decision.

It seems many people still have the inertia of hate wayland got in the past due to it being barebone and incomplete, now (unless you got garbage Nvidia card with garbage drivers) it is doing well.

[lostuser]

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Yeah sorry, im going to have to agree with loadingxml with pretty much everything on this one, besides the "modern clean code" when referring to X11, lol.

It is in double quotes for a reason...

Either way, wayland is superior to both, and yes that is including wlroots.

since wlroots is mentioned, I will simply give my biggest valid none-emotionally based criticism of it.

Basically, recall what linus torvalds said about the linux desktop situation and his number one law for any linux kernel maintainer:

"DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE"

Basically even tho linus himself have warned about such stuff long ago, it somehow still happens in linux desktop because of the same reason Xlibre exists, That some people wanted to do stuff that they think its right without thinking of the consequences.

Basically imagine someone doing an "API Cleanup" that's good right? simplier, better, probably even faster APIs, but at what cost? literally destroying backward capability and anything that uses the old API.

This is basically and literally what wlroots does in EVERY UPDATE, like EVERY UPDATE the devs has to keep up with whatever API change they did.

derive linux project,

First time hearing about them, "almost 100% gnu free" and "everything statically linked" !
promising indeed.

maybe contribute to such projects and help find or create actual alternatives and solutions,

I doubt most critisics know how to code, let alone develop in the first place, don't raise your hopes so much, remember the oneflux saga (read here: viewtopic.php?p=236#p236)

As for people getting banned, wow, the arch linux forum moderators are insane leftists,

Despite being against such behaviors, I would say I understand the banning reason, like Imagine out of no where, in the devided linux landscape, someone was about to revive a dying division, when the linux community is finally uniting towards making the new solution work, someone, somewhere, wants to destroy this union.

I wouldn't have done better really, even talking bad about Xlibre would give it a free advertisement.

[moeloli]

Either way, wayland is superior to both normal X11 and XLibre. Don't get me wrong, there are still valid reasons one might run X over wayland, but when we are talking strictly about design and simplicity, wayland takes the cake.

A fragmented Frankenstein "protocol" mimicking Linux's problems at a small scale and with weird hardcoded limitations is not brilliant design. Well, it may be only from a cat-v suckless mememalist religious standpoint.

Also, if you're that worried about freedesktop stuff an alternative wayland stack is already in the works under the derive linux project, which i've mentioned here before. As said before, seems much more promising than XLibre or similar random slop. But i won't lie and say its completely functional on every system, it still has quite a ways to go.

Yeah, that's cool and all, but bring it up when it's actually ready to use... I hope it will work on GNU/Hurd and RISC-V.

Heres a fun challenge. I want you to give me at least 5 technical reasons i should choose XLibre over literally any of the other options at hand.

It's a (as of now) slightly upgraded version the only real display server for Linux and BSD, but granted, the vanilla display server just werks as is and if you're already using it and you're not installing a new system there's no big reason to upgrade.

[mia]

I stand with moeloli in this thread.

Of course a Muslim would stand for Derive Linux(hosted on codeberg™) and their cabalist community and goals

I noticed a few things I'd like to point out about Wayland.fyi, 9larp.net (before they shut it down) and derivelinux.org

[1]: A list of approved software compatible, mostly hosted on their git and made by them and others on codeberg (not including https://ports.derivelinux.org/); standing for a idea that the user should only use the software they approve with the excuse of being "independent" while using the Linux kernel, which is developed by glowies, underpaid chinese slaves at huawei, Indians at google and tannies

[2]: They link a chapter of The UNIX HATERS Handbook, a book edited by Simson Garfinkel, who worked for the US government, Daniel Weise, a Microsoft employee, Steven Strassmann, scientist at apple; named "Dangerous Virus!" written by Don Hopkins, a employee at Sun Microsystem, who hated X because it was slow and made powerful Unix workstation run sluggish, true at the time but not anymore

[3] The derive community publicly supported a sexist idea on (I believe) tech/ board that men should not have any place within programming, woman write better code because they aren't men and that they should take estrogen and become a "woman" (tranny), essentially tranny propaganda for slowly conditionate people to cut off your d*ck and stab your crotch until you tie the knot.

I'd rather use a portable & bloated <<<Window System>>> that has, oh my god! SCREEN TEARING JUST LIKE WINDOWS XP!! *boo* and has already been standardised for decades and is compatible with every single GUI program for *nix out there than a technically lightweight and sEcURer protocol under another bloated garbage like wlroots besides a slave X server--because not every programming supports Wayland--or under a "suckless" fork of swc, made by shrub, a jew, that is unusable as a daily driver, also see [1]. Although, if you want to avoid FreeDesktop shenanigans you should try using the VT more.

The TTY/VT rulz, BTW!

I also wish to see an Wayland compositor running on OpenBSD/Luna88k.

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Of course a Muslim would stand for Derive Linux(hosted on codeberg™) and their cabalist community and goals

So the summory of that block of time wasting text is that: whoever is behind Derive Linux is some bad people, therefore Derive Linux is bad.

I admire Infidels logic, but here is a little golden rule you may or may not apply in your life:


If something is made by a bad person, it doesn't necessary mean its a bad thing


I know logic is hard for many idiots, but if you try hard, take enough oxygen and overclock your 3 braincells, you might get it.

[mia]

So the summory of that block of time wasting text is that: whoever is behind Derive Linux is some bad people, therefore Derive Linux is bad.

You completely missed the entire points, did you run "sed -n '1,3p;8,11p'" before reading my post?

I admire Infidels logic, but here is a little golden rule you may or may not apply in your life:
If something is made by a bad person, it doesn't necessary mean its a bad thing

Let's suppose this was my actual logic. people who felt for the propaganda, maimed their genitals as if this act—that I personally frown upon—would morph themselves into being a totally real woman and preach their sexist word (against themselves); people who lean towards evil; people who aren't in a good mental state, still tend to create bad, horrible things

[lostuser]

slop

[lostuser]

slop

[mia]

IIRC 9larp.net is supposed to be temporarily down. Maybe i am mistaken.

34th time in a row

What the fuck are you even ranting about here.

My opinion exaggeratedly drafted

Theres a list of software that has been ported to and works on derive so they are evil?

Nah

It is a pretty small project, and they only "support" a small amount of software that is relevant to the people that actually use it. You could build and run whatever trash you want on your own accord and im sure nobody would care or seriously criticize you for it..

My point was: It's honestly useless, Nobody is using this as a daily driver; it's a [research] atypical Linux distro. I meant to say I don't like being closed in such ecosystem; what if I actually want to use a program that sucks? It'd never work for me (This also applies for the suckless.org meme). if something works for them or you; it doesn't mean everybody should start using it, X with it's own quirks, erratic code and it's enormous library of bad and good programs which support it, just works™ for me.

You think these people are evil

No I don't, in fact I don't really mind, I'm actually fond of Windows NT and other Microsoft products :), I was just pointing out that cuz they were sort of the opposition at the time, of course they would want to make their product look better.

Wait until you find out who created UNIX.

Ken and Dennis whom in my humble opinion are pests and—i'm not sure if this is true or not—I believe Bell Labs subcontracted Mexicans, that's why it's so bad

This point still isnt entirely relevant to derive and its associated software though.

It's a Linux distro so honestly I wouldn't call it "independent"

Ok so now we are just moral fagging. Now it makes more sense as to why you brought up the last section, another wierd attempt at moral fagging.

I showed their morals because I think it's good knowledge about them, why wouldn't you wanna know? It's also complementary

But I guess this goes back to how the XLibre crowd love mixing in strange political stuff given any random opportunity, instead of making actually relevant points about the software itself

I'm not part of the XLibre crowd neither I use XLibre, and Free software is inherently political. I honestly don't see any problem upon seeing people put politics on their project, either being leftist cuck ideals or right-wing cuck ideals, it's their project. derive and it's community are also very political, so why not talk about that?

[3] was supposed to be a complementary block of text, don't take as if it is a point of mine

The wayland protocol itself is much simpler than X

I said that

The actual problem is wlroots which has many linuxisms and doesnt work very well on other systems. This is exactly one of the things that can be solved by having a better wayland stack.

Exactly, although my point was: it isn't usable at the moment and it will never be near feature rich as X11

If you want something to be more usable and to have better things, then write some code or stfu until someone else gets to it.

Why should I write better software for a rotten base?

its just that the whole XLibre thing really doesnt solve the X11 or freedesktop issue, and there are better ways that we can.

I said that at the end of the text.
Honestly I think XLibre is just a conspiracy made by IBM to slow down our progress, the main developer nearly knows C, and this is something expected from someone who worked on freedesktop.org

I said in my first post there are still completely valid reasons (like using legacy hardware) for X11.

Off topic but I'd thankful if you drafted your definition of "legacy hardware'

just as a reminder, the original point was that wayland is better than X, from a perspective of design and simplicity..

That's not enough to classify a software as good; by this logic, FreeDOS is way better than Linux or BSD.

[mia]

As a side note, i wonder why all these people have a fixation with trans people and their genitals. Sus.

lol, how couldn't I think about those things while looking at 9larp.org?

HUH?? YOUR INSOLENT PEST!! THAT'S MISINFORMATION!!1 YOU ARE DEFAMING MY IMAGE!!!1!1 I WILL PULL YOUR FEET WHILE YOU SLEEP!!! AUUGHHHNNEREMW

btw couldn't you tell the post was purposefully sensationalistic? It's uncharacteristic for me to write schizo posts

[BVLL]

As a side note, i wonder why all these people have a fixation with trans people and their genitals. Sus.

Its more like this https://postimg.cc/8JD6Gy2c (random image hosting site cuz catbox is dead)

[qualia]

KDE board member is claiming xlibre is "fascist"
https://lunduke.substack.com/p/kde-boar ... is-fascist

I wonder why the sudden attack on xlibre? Makes me want to try it now.

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KDE board member is claiming xlibre is "fascist"

controlled opposition, KDE isn't microsoft, not everything they hate is good.