Mass male sacrifice watchdog

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Here, I'll collect news relevant to the biggest modern (adult) human rights violation, sometimes called "conscription" or "the draft". Anyway, one I came across today:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/21 ... nagers-ww3

Some quotes:

As a result, hundreds of Croatian teenagers have reported for duty, with training taking place at three barracks across the country.

A duty for what?

Once on site, the recruits receive their kit and dormitory assignments, and, for the next two months, must submit to military discipline so the country can ensure adequate military preparedness.

To die when your war-loving rulers decide you need to, of course. That's the "military preparedness". Preparing you to die.

"They have now been torn from the civilian environment," Tihomir Kundid, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Croatia, said.

Torn is indeed a good word to describe it.

One in 10 are women, who are under no obligation to serve.

Cool. They were not "torn" though, which is a fundamental difference. And they won't get dragged to war when it comes, so this remains an exclusively male issue.

Currently, Croatia’s military has 15,000 active soldiers and 2,000 reservists. In 2022, only 402 individuals completed voluntary training - far below the annual need of 1,000 conscripts.

Yes. Obviously, people are not interested in a "career" that will have them get sent to the frontline to kill people that dared to be born outside of the arbitrary "country lines", and perhaps die themselves. But, your warmongering rulers need you to fill the spot for potential sacrifice, you roach!

However, Croatia's proximity to the war in Ukraine - with only Hungary separating the two countries - has prompted a move to reinstate compulsory military service.

And? Does this mean you HAVE TO get involved?

"For four years now, we've been looking at not just the Russian aggression in Ukraine, but the proxies of Russia all around Europe doing their jobs."

Where is the proof that Croatia is in danger?

Approximately 18,000 young men in Croatia turn 18 each year. Several thousand of them will be called for mandatory military service at various intervals. It is expected that 4,000 conscripts will undergo mandatory training every year, divided into five generations.

Imagine if this is how women were described. As animals to get "called" to get trained for potential sacrifice at the whim of some warmonger. Feminists would scream 24/7. Yet, crickets from the modern man-cuck. Even the MRAs are silent about the draft.

And that is why I'm doing this. I researched the MRA movement, all the communities and big authors I could find, and I couldn't find a single one that is decisively against mass male sacrifice. So, I'll try my hand, at covering what others are perhaps scared of?

Edit: I asked an LLM for MRAs that have publicly spoken against conscription without "ifs and buts". It gave me four people (David E. Smith, Michael Kinsley, Michele Lee, and John Stossel - two of which it admitted are not even MRAs), none of which I could confirm that actually did this. So it seems the LLM just made it up. And it seems I'm right after all. No one cares.

Edit 2: the only person I find who is decisively against conscription is a fucking libertarian feminist. How pathetic is that?!

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Wait until xe discovers Ukraine

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I researched the MRA movement, all the communities and big authors I could find, and I couldn't find a single one that is decisively against mass male sacrifice.

I cannot comment on MRAs as I'm not very familiar with the movement but back when I still used social media I've seen a lot of anti-draft sentiment among men in general online, definutely outnumbering any old people whining about how military turns you into a real man or whatever. So the people are not as brainwashed here as usual. Or at the very least they weren't a couple years ago.

Edit 2: the only person I find who is decisively against conscription is a fucking libertarian feminist. How pathetic is that?!

I wish more feminists did then because MRAs have zero political power at the moment (although thats changing). Repackaging the point as "military service traumatizes men in order to reinforce patriarchal notions of masculinity" or something like that might help.


The discussion about the draft going mainstream in the West is inevitable at this point I think. Of course, the elites will never give up the power to genocide their own citizens, so watch the media reframe the discussion from "conscription is evil" to "conscription discriminates against men, we should also start drafting women to achieve equality!".

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I researched the MRA movement, all the communities and big authors I could find, and I couldn't find a single one that is decisively against mass male sacrifice.

I cannot comment on MRAs as I'm not very familiar with the movement but back when I still used social media I've seen a lot of anti-draft sentiment among men in general online, definutely outnumbering any old people whining about how military turns you into a real man or whatever. So the people are not as brainwashed here as usual. Or at the very least they weren't a couple years ago.

That's possible. The only social media I'm familiar with is reddit, and they all love the draft. But maybe elsewhere is different.

I wish more feminists did then because MRAs have zero political power at the moment (although thats changing). Repackaging the point as "military service traumatizes men in order to reinforce patriarchal notions of masculinity" or something like that might help.

Indeed. That is a very good idea.

The discussion about the draft going mainstream in the West is inevitable at this point I think. Of course, the elites will never give up the power to genocide their own citizens, so watch the media reframe the discussion from "conscription is evil" to "conscription discriminates against men, we should also start drafting women to achieve equality!".

Heh. I low-key wish they tried that, because I don't think it's going to go well for them.

What are the things a man will fight to the death for? To me, the 3 only ones are his country, God (if he believes in one), and a woman (kids could perhaps be added but that requires having a woman in the first place). If they try throwing women into trucks the way they do men in Ukraine, there will be blood. Yes, even the cucked man of today should be moved if he sees his queens get trucked to the front line...If not, then well, we're in a really bad position.

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About Ukraine, a man (hero) just escaped from there on some kind of mini-plane. Then he asked for asylum in Romania but they decided to prosecute him instead...and notify the Ukraine gov <___<.

Hopefully he manages to get away unscathed. Under Georgescu this wouldn't be happening...

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Indeed. That is a very good idea.

I've been entertaining the notion of making videos that emulate the style of smug left-wing video essays but have this kind of messaging for a while. The goal would be reaching the reddit audience, since packaging information in a way that resembles their favourite "rational" youtubers might be the only way to convince them.

Heh. I low-key wish they tried that, because I don't think it's going to go well for them.

What are the things a man will fight to the death for? To me, the 3 only ones are his country, God (if he believes in one), and a woman (kids could perhaps be added but that requires having a woman in the first place). If they try throwing women into trucks the way they do men in Ukraine, there will be blood. Yes, even the cucked man of today should be moved if he sees his queens get trucked to the front line...If not, then well, we're in a really bad position.

I'm genuinely convinced they will. Young men have already become completely disillusioned, are not willijg to fight for their country and have no God or women to fight for. Maybe I am too optimistic but if the government announced the draft I think many of them would refuse to fight. The only way to prevent an anti-conscription movement is to redirect social anger towards some lesser identity politics issue (think how the media managed to turn the "occupy wall st" left into the "black indigenous trans kids rights matter" left in just a decade). I've already seen arguments for this online which go something like this:

"Several countries (Israel, Norway, Sweden) have conscription for both sexes, Denmark will have one starting this year! Why can't we? We'd have twice the number of soldiers, that's an obvious advantage! Of course it's because women want equal rights without any of the responsibilities! They'll be partying with men abroad while you're dying in the trenches!"

Of course it's stupid online gender war stuff for now but a lot of what was stupid online gender war stuff a couple years ago is now getting mainstreamed by the media, it's clearly priming people for something.

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There's no point in being a veteran.
Your reputation and social standing counts for nothing, you will be lectured by various people on the basis of "equality".
Your vote will matter the same as someone who didn't fight in the war, you can't have a greater say as to what the country should do.
The women won't care about your war record, instead, they'll date the guy who's a DJ at a nightclub or the TikToker with millions of followers.
Instead of granting you a polygamous license to father many children with subsidised help, the government will instead increase immigration from culturally, racially and religiously different countries in order to boost the GDP level.

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I am so sick and tired of the military-industrial complex. The psychopathic elites wants a perpetual war to justify their bloated military budgets. They want you to die for them in some trenches while they sit their pretty asses on a certain island fucking little kids. These parasites are the one demanding mandatory military service for all men 18 to 27 years old and all men needs to be drafted into some meat grinder againts their will and suffer from permanently PTSD and amputation.

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The hunted becomes the hunter (mood bosting vid of a would-be conscript whipping his would-be captors with a chain)
.love link if you don't want to enable jabba on reddit

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Germadness strikes again:

Germany Introduces New Travel Restrictions for Men Aged 17–45 Amid Military Reforms

Germany has introduced new regulations requiring men aged 17 to 45 to obtain official permission before leaving the country for extended periods.

Extended period = 3 months.

This requirement is now a permanent fixture of German law, enacted through the Military Service Modernization Act. The measure was implemented with little public attention.

Even if it had public attention, the plebs cannot affect laws with the current legal system, so it wouldn't matter.

A spokesperson for the German Federal Ministry of Defense confirmed the introduction of the new travel authorization requirement. In a statement to journalists, the spokesperson explained that "The basis and leading idea of this rule is a reliable and credible accounting of those liable for military service in case of need."

Basically they want to be able to drag you into a war with Russia when the "need" (psychopaths' wish) arises.

Germany aims to increase its troop numbers from the current level of approximately 184,000 to between 255,000 and 270,000 soldiers by 2035.

They even have a specific number they want to sacrifice. I guess not many are signing up for it by themselves.

As part of this initiative, all young men born in 2008 or later must complete a questionnaire regarding their willingness to serve. While the survey is mandatory for men, it remains voluntary for women.

I guess they want to know how far they will have to reach with the dragging. Ukraine tier or a little less? And prepare for it.

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Another showcase of why men's rights activism isn't working

In short the "men" in that thread complain about how they are taught since childhood to just "endure". It's a valid complaint, but you can ignore the teachings in the end. How far can they take the abuse until they begin resisting?

The second complaint is that they are called "misogynists" when they stand up to the abuse of males. Again, who cares? Just do what you want anyway. Is such an insult going to make you hide under the table, really?

The third complaint is that MRA doesn't receive government funding (lol). You are complaining that the people in power, don't just want to give up their power and stop abusing males when it's convenient? You wish for them to just ... stop doing what they've been doing for decades and start being compassionate? You wish for the insane to become sane, somehow. You still trust the system. That's why you don't resist, I guess? You still have that deep seated belief it's somehow justified but it's not.

Early feminists BURNED SHIT! They were more manly than today's men. If MRAs can only limit themselves to whining on the internet, then the movement can only fail. And it's not feminists preventing them, it's themselves.

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Norway will no longer accept Ukrainian male escapists automatically (morty because CF):

The amendment to the Regulations will mean that men in the age group 18 to 60 will no longer fall within the scheme for collective protection, under which temporary residence is granted on the basis of a group assessment.

And their gov wants them to die:

We also believe it is important that as many as possible remain in Ukraine to contribute to the defence effort and keep Ukrainian society functioning

March 27 news. But I thought it's important.

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Another exposition of the men's rights movement.

Basically, once again they are arguing that "women should be drafted just like men". What really bothers the posters there is the fact that women get the same rights as men even though they are exempt from the sacrifice. Instead of, I don't know - the worldwide mass male sacrifice that the draft allows. The OP even says he wants the DEATH RATES!!! to be equalized between the genders - lol! As much as I might not like to say it, feminists got it mostly right here - hate fuels the MRM. And it's not going to accomplish anything as long as it is this way. The few posters who went against the prevailing narrative there got heavily downvoted. It feels like the entire sub might be in fact astroturfed. But, I see similar sentiment elsewhere in the MRM too.

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The discussion about the draft going mainstream in the West is inevitable at this point I think. Of course, the elites will never give up the power to genocide their own citizens, so watch the media reframe the discussion from "conscription is evil" to "conscription discriminates against men, we should also start drafting women to achieve equality!".

Huh. Who could've ever thought.

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Germany to Limit Ukrainian Men Seeking Asylum as Kyiv, Berlin Sign Defense Pact Morty link to skip CF

TRIGGER WARNING Zelensky's face in the photo (seriously, I can't look at it anymore, feels like it represents all the world's evil to me)

Anyway, the article is somewhat long and repeats itself quite a bit; I'll just quote the most relevant parts to me:

“We will work closely [with Ukraine] on issues related to Ukrainian citizens who have sought asylum in our country and facilitate their return home,” he said.

So, Ukrainian men currently in Germany will get kicked out of there.

Merz added that Berlin and Kyiv would cooperate on limiting the number of Ukrainian men seeking asylum in Germany.

And new ones won't be able to come in. Why?

“It is extremely important that these men are on the ground and helping their country,” he added.

...because they need to die in the war.

“Our AFU would like them to return because the issue of justice matters. Our people at the front need rotation. Although our soldiers are iron, they have families. Every citizen must bear responsibility,” he said.

Lolodymyr's manipulation in full display. He never cared about "the families" of the random men literally dragged to die from a bar or while coming back home from grocery shopping. He never cared about their crying wives and daughters. Ukraine even lacks the funds to pay the families of the fallen, according to insiders. That is how much they "care".

And every citizen must bear responsibility? Sons of politicians, big businessmen, military high-ups, etc. don't get dragged. And of course women don't either (not that I would want that, but it shows Zelensky simply LIES). To hear the word "justice" coming from his mouth is peak clownery. And then there is this:

Merz also said Russia must end the war as soon as possible.

“It has no chance of winning it,” he said.

The meeting (of Merz and Zelensky) took place against the backdrop of stalled US-initiated peace talks between Ukraine and Russia, with Kyiv rejecting proposals that would involve ceding territory.

This is contrary to the will of Ukrainians as shown in polls over and over. Over half want the war to end even if it means ceding some territory.

Anyway, I skipped a lot of the details about "Ukraine and Germany military cooperation" because I didn't feel like it matters much. As an aside, this article was written by "Julia Struck-Feshchenko", AKA a person who won't get dragged. Maybe that is why she can manage to say so much nonsense while ignoring the brutal mass sacrifice that's going on. I wish western journalists would dare to stick their heads out, and just showcase busification EVEN ONCE. But, I guess they are all compromised at this point.

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TRIGGER WARNING Zelensky's face in the photo (seriously, I can't look at it anymore, feels like it represents all the world's evil to me)

The same jew who yesterday made antisemitism illegal, imprisoning anyone who criticizes jews for 8 years and giving you biggest fine possible

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TRIGGER WARNING Zelensky's face in the photo (seriously, I can't look at it anymore, feels like it represents all the world's evil to me)

The same jew who yesterday made antisemitism illegal, imprisoning anyone who criticizes jews for 8 years and giving you biggest fine possible

Out of curiosity, how are you avoiding busification? Feel free to not answer if it could endanger you.

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TRIGGER WARNING Zelensky's face in the photo (seriously, I can't look at it anymore, feels like it represents all the world's evil to me)

The same jew who yesterday made antisemitism illegal, imprisoning anyone who criticizes jews for 8 years and giving you biggest fine possible

Out of curiosity, how are you avoiding busification? Feel free to not answer if it could endanger you.

I avoid it by being younger than 25

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The same jew who yesterday made antisemitism illegal, imprisoning anyone who criticizes jews for 8 years and giving you biggest fine possible

Out of curiosity, how are you avoiding busification? Feel free to not answer if it could endanger you.

I avoid it by being younger than 25

I hope he fucks off before you become of age then.

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Ukraine said it captured a Russian position using only ground robots and drones, no infantry, for the first time

Ukrainian ground robots have carried out more than 22,000 missions on the front lines over the last three months. He said that means "lives were saved more than 22,000 times when a robot went into the most dangerous areas instead of a warrior."

Even more would be saved if you did diplomacy instead of dragging. Actually, if all you psycho retards at the top political positions could just for a second stop stroking your power dick, all the deaths would stop.

"This is about high technology protecting the highest value — human life," he said, identifying some of the robotic systems Ukraine uses, such as Ratel, TerMIT, Ardal, Rys, Zmiy, Protector, and Volia.

It's not protecting shit, you're still doing war. People still die from those exact robots you're shilling. Even indirectly by money going to those instead of the homeless, etc.

Ukraine, with a much smaller population than Russia and often struggling with shortages of Western-provided weaponry, has turned to aerial drones and ground robots to offset manpower and equipment gaps with domestically produced systems.

There are only "gaps" if you assume war has a point in the first place. The language manipulation should be obvious here; we need to fill a "gap" therefore sacrificing people is fine. You exist to fill the "gap".

Just as Ukraine has expanded its drone arsenal, it also has a growing collection of ground robots, also known as uncrewed ground vehicles (UGVs), that evacuate the wounded, transport gear, lay mines, fire weaponry, and self-destruct inside Russian positions.

All stuff that should not be produced and the resources spent on something actually useful.

Ukrainian soldiers have had to rely on drones partly due to equipment shortages, but the success of cheap drones in surveilling the battlefield, replacing artillery, and destroying expensive weapons is not being ignored by other militaries.

Yeah. Soon most of the wars will be fought like this. And the country that will "win" is the one that can manage to produce or steal more of these items; in other words the one that abuses its population more (because resources spent on war equipment are ones that are not spent elsewhere). Maybe this will finally teach people how retarded wars for lines on a map truly are, especially when we all suffer for it and don't get anything in return. It's purely an elite psycho game. And I hope that, the fact that people and their emotions are not involved anymore, will make it easier to see.

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By the way, gender transitioning doesn't free you from the obligatory sacrifice. I was hoping for it but it seems the elites don't really care about your "identified gender" unless it's convenient for them. I checked five countries:

• USA - Males by birth are considered males for the purposes of the draft.
• Thailand - same.
• South Korea - same.
• Germany - doesn't allow gender transitioning during war or two months before war.
• Ukraine - heh you bet I checked that. Actually it's the most lenient, in that if you change your legal documents from male to female, you are supposedly exempt. But it apparently takes hospital visits and proving you have dysphoria and so on, so I can't imagine many people taking advantage of it.

There might be some nuances, this is just from a cursory look at a search engine.

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Germany - doesn't allow gender transitioning during war or two months before war.

How does that even work? If you transition and a month later they decide it's time for a new war, does your transition get legally invalidated?

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https://www.newsweek.com/us-draft-updat ... e-11850885

A major U.S. technology company (Palantir) ignited controversy after urging the federal government to adopt a system of universal national service, a move that critics say edges toward endorsing a military draft.

In the post on X Sunday, Palantir shared a number of rules, including one that read: "National service should be a universal duty. We should, as a society, seriously consider moving away from an all-volunteer force and only fight the next war if everyone shares in the risk and the cost."

The call from Palantir Technologies drew attention online after its post was reposted, prompting debate about the role of private defense‑tech firms in shaping national

Palantir Technologies is a U.S.-based data‑analytics and software company founded in 2003. It builds platforms that allow governments, intelligence agencies, militaries, and private companies to analyze extremely large and complex datasets.

The company has won major Pentagon contracts, including work on Project Maven, an AI‑driven targeting and surveillance program.

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Ha! I bet all the Palantir execs are ready to be drafted.

It's so funny. Americans on Reddit kept reminding everyone, just a week or two ago, that the new selective service law literally doesn't matter - it just "automatizes what was already done manually". And for years in MRA spaces they kept saying that the last draft was 70 years ago and it can't happen here. Well karma strikes (for their naivety) and they will be dragged to the military now like most Euro countries. And surely this is being done in preparation for sacrificing them all in Iran.

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https://finway.com.ua/en/the-podilskyi-district-man-stabbed/

Two of Zelensky's goons stabbed while trying to drag, and likely to die. Not much to say...

https://web.archive.org/web/20260509162546/https://militarnyi.com/en/news/students-germany-protest-anti-conscription/

Antiwar protest in Germany. The participating students even skipped school that day. Really based. Supposedly about half of German spending is used for war-related efforts now. This puts people's common beliefs into perspective. Having to fight for survival, work a lot, "unskilled" jobs not being possible to get rewarded adequately, homeless deserving their fate, retirement ages "needing" to be raised because there isn't enough young workers, and so on.

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Antiwar protest in Germany. The participating students even skipped school that day. Really based.

I recently learned quite a lot of arab spring related topics, democrasy and so on.

Now i seriously see, the best way to destroy a nation is to make it a real democrasy (spoilers: no western country is)


I see that western leaders do know this fact, thats why no amount of protesting would make the govs do something they see not fit, and I observe that, when this happen (gov resists whatever the protesters want) nothing change really, example is the yellow vests protest in france.

Anyhow as a west hater, the more these protests appear, the more I smile (end of the west is near).

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EU is planning an androcide (morty because CF)

According to an internal Council of the European Union document seen by Euractiv, one option under consideration would extend the protection framework while narrowing eligibility for new applicants. Potential changes include “the exclusion of men of conscription age” and individuals who did not leave Ukraine through legal channels.

Several member states have expressed concern that a growing share of recent arrivals consists of military-age men. According to the document, some governments argue that revising the framework could support Ukraine’s war effort and help preserve the workforce needed for the country’s eventual reconstruction.

Mask off moment. Pretenses dropped to zero. Now, even if you heroically cross the mountains to Romania (or wherever), EU psychopaths will just send you back to die in one of Zelensky's ditches.

Ukraine has faced mounting manpower shortages during the conflict and has taken steps to boost recruitment, including lowering the mobilisation age from 27 to 25 in 2024.

Once again, there is only a "manpower shortage" if you believe that human lives are subservient to country lines.

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It’s amazing Ukrainian military still requires all that flesh. From what I’ve read they’ve become experts in mechanized warfare and thus very efficient at raining death and conquering new territories without actual boots on the ground. Plus, with all the drones at their disposal you would think they’ll reach Kamchatka any day now.

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It’s amazing Ukrainian military still requires all that flesh. From what I’ve read they’ve become experts in mechanized warfare and thus very efficient at raining death and conquering new territories without actual boots on the ground. Plus, with all the drones at their disposal you would think they’ll reach Kamchatka any day now.

Maybe the human sacrifice is the point. I lack any other viable explanation at this point.

Anyway, I found out a few days back that Thailand does lottery for the draft. Every 21 old male gets dragged and is made to pick a card from a basket. If it's red, he "serves" 2 years; if it's black, he is freed. It's all made into a big scene with thousands of people watching, laughing, etc. Very humiliating IMO.

Also, english language mainstream media loves to say that "Thai men love to volunteer for the military" (eg here) but actually, they do that because they receive a lesser sentence (1 year instead) if they go "willingly" instead of by drawing a bad card. They can also choose their division then, and the Thai military is known for being cruel.

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Not news and not related to the Ukraine war, but I was thinking about how the concept of "war crimes" (as opposed to non-"criminal" warfare) is bogus and laughable for reasons we can imagine.

Anyway, since I'm posting here, I may as well post this picture which is very accurate (and relevant to the Ukraine war).

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Maybe the human sacrifice is the point. I lack any other viable explanation at this point.

Spoilers for Final Fantasy Tactics, but in that game, there's a twist that the war that takes place during much of the game is actually a giant blood sacrifice set up by the church (which is actually run by demons) to summon their messiah (who is actually the devil), which is pretty interesting, and may partially reflect what goes on in the real world. I think that Square (developer) was "in the know", because there are other /x/-like things in the game, the most interesting being that the messiah canonically was born on September 11th, and the final battle against him takes place on an airship - mind you, this game is from the 90's.