browsers for 2026

[travolter]

Hi guys!!

Im happy to enter into the forum with us and learn from your knowledge.

Curerntly Im using newmoon browser (XP) an small, old but resources saving one Qtweb (Im writting with this).

The current internet is dead for me ... cause I dont consume modern crappy content... just vintage things from the past... and sometimes if I need to enter into "their" pages... Im forced to use 360browser(chrome) or pass the satanic CF rituals.

Ill really would love to read what are you using for browsing today.

[LoadingXML]

If you are into privacy/anonymity
Then either ungoogled chromium or oneflux fork of firefox (I couldn't find it, ask dig for it).

Otherwise Tor browser.

Any use of old browsers is not justified, this includes palemoon, and the reason most use it is simply nestalgia or wanting some old rusty stuff, not for any objective reason.

[malformed_jill]

i don't like tor browser personally, i get having the same fingerprint but the extensions it offers aren't super good.
i have librewolf with umatrix and i just add the torsocks proxy in the settings. i usually just go on the same stuff through my book marks right now.
also when i was out at foreign with a 2008 toughbook ended up using w3m and twibright links (for onion websites), both of which i used to access here and shadowforums before. i like minimalist browsers in spite of their privacy shortcomings.

[lostuser]

slop

[qualia]

"For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time."
-stallman

[sirfessor]

I use R3dfox, a fork of Firefox for older Windows. Palemoon and its forks work fine too but they lag a lot on websites that use a lot of Javascripts.

[Theundercoverman_]

There are no good web browsers. LibreWolf is the least bad for now, and making it even slightly usable requires a ton of custom userChrome.css (a security risk I'm surprised Mozilla never removed) which can't restore the sanity of old Firefox like Pale Moon can. I have not used Mullvad browser and I don't care to. It's been many years since I have used Pale Moon and I don't think I'll ever go back to it. I wouldn't use any minimalist browsers either not because of their privacy and security shortcomings. Last I remember, GNOME Web doesn't let you disable JavaScript, Midori (the old Midori which used WebKitGTK) is one of the most unusable browsers for me, and QtWebEngine is basically ancient Chromium with some security fixes "backported" from newer versions. I can't see Ladybird or Servo ever replacing Chrome or even Firefox and even if they did, how long would it be before they became the new Chrome or Firefox as in bloated spyware with a shitty barebones browsing experience.

Ideally, a browser would contain no spyware, no feature bloat (except maybe built-in RSS support), no AI, many configuration settings, support for Manifest V2 extensions (I don't care what anyone says, I want my fucking uMatrix/uBlock advanced mode functionality) and complete themes, a sane user interface and browsing experience (Firefox 1-28), and all the security hardening and features of Trivalent. I wouldn't even care if this hypothetical browser used Chrome.

[travolter]

Internet in 2026 is the worst nightmare that we would never imagine. Using modern browsers requires a gamer computer... tons of ram if you plan to open several tabs... thats the cause I continue using old browsers to dig into pages that are clean enough of crap. Matrix extension is the must have to survive... but I see that future is not for me with the forced ID to enter internet, and of course if a chrome/same family) browser will be required to verify your connection.

I wonder... exist any alternative to chrome family browsers in terms of javascript performance? Newmoon is ok for memory consumption but sadly the browser was not designed to rely heavily on javascripts and modern crap like CF

[LoadingXML]

Using modern browsers requires a gamer computer...

Reminds me of a guy who said we should rank computers based on howbmany electron based apps they could run.

Anyhow if you have issue with browser consuming ram, there are extensions to deal wth that, I recommend the one that snooze inactive tabs (I used one on librewolf), saving you ram.

I once had more than a 1000 tab open and delt with it.

[travolter]

Ill check these extensions with my 2Gb ram netbooks... I use these old machines to test performance of programs... anyway I see that people that designed chrome engines did not have resource savings in mind.... like on palemoon/old firefox.. that you was able to open tons of tabs without so much ram comsumption.

[www]

just try debloat ur os and you will got a better performace. I use a fork of famous browser and can put 15 tabs with a little bit ram.

[moeloli]

You can't fully blame Google/Mozilla developers for how bloated their browsers are, because the web standards themselves are extremely bloated, and big corporations are the ones pushing for it (Morty). I've heard that the HTTP standards are longer than the 100 longest novels combined (as a comparison), or something along those lines. So, it's the web that's fucked, not the browsers. That's why making and maintaining a browser compatible with modern websites is a monumental task and we're reliant on Google or its subsidiary Mozilla.

[equilibria]

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[mia]

You can't fully blame Google/Mozilla developers for how bloated their browsers are, because the web standards themselves are extremely bloated, and big corporations are the ones pushing for it (Morty). I've heard that the HTTP standards are longer than the 100 longest novels combined (as a comparison), or something along those lines. So, it's the web that's fucked, not the browsers.

i assume you meant HTML5 ("living standard") and ECMA faggotry (the faggots that write standard for ECMAScript which is also colloquially called "JavaScript"), but yes, it is BEYOND belief how bloated they are. just read them at https://html.spec.whatwg.org/ and https://ecma-international.org/publicat ... /ecma-262/ . do you think you need all this bloat for.... what? reading web sites? we had XHTML 4.0 for that, or gopher. for coomer scum? that rather shouldn't have existed and shouldn't exist, for it is a mind control psyop. etc.

anyways, one point to make, yes, the "devs" are to fully blame. http://web.archive.org/web/202501131948 ... ation.html corporations are by definition evil, they are not human, they are artificial parasitic superstructure to extort your life force and allow evil to flourish in the world in massive scale without anyone feeling anything in their conscience. the "devs" voluntarily cucked themselves to slave for "Google" or "Mo$illa" parasites. thus, they have becoem the personal agents of malevolence to 10000000s of beings. and they BENEFIT from the bloat, since now no one but THEY can maintain all that bloat, which gives them a "cushy job" (less painful slavery) which proves they are evil, as they go along with it. though it is questionable if they are more evil or the hidden powers who design this structure of bloat are. the cuck devs likely have no idea they are part of this evil though, which regardless doesnt exculpate them by an ymeans, as this is exactly how the entire evil is enabled. always remember that someone wrote code for the surveillance grid in exchange for a pension. how more pathetic can it get? to technologically enslave all other living beings for phantom paper on a digital grid that can vanish at any moment ?

if you're revolted by the bloat within the modern web, use protocols like ftp, gopher, gemini and access simple html pages, wget can be used to download files and entire websites, lftp is a great ftp client, lynx is a great browser for simple html websites, and, you also have a lots of gopher and gemini clients available in various flavours

Also, you sound overly angry, this makes some people uncomfortable

[Theundercoverman_]

Speaking of web bloat
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=26/03/23/1558231

We can avoid this bloat as much as we want but eventually we'll find ourselves back to normie soydev malicious sites sooner or later, and most websites aren't even viewable without JS anymore because of those Anubis captchas. Blame the AI.

[moeloli]

Blame the AI.

We can't fully blame AI, webmasters are at fault too, they could use better solutions than a JS crypto-miner (with a tranny bootleg anime mascot).
>Which solutions exactly?
I dunno, I don't run a website myself. Yes, I know, "talk is cheap" and all, but it's hard to believe that there are no clever JS-less solutions out there.

[equilibria]

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[GenericKeyboard]

Brave Browser, but I also like terminal browsers such as w3m and links.

[mia]

if you get "offended" by ascii on a glowing screen, fuck you, you're probably "offended" by this too: N I G G E R. how about this, F A G G O T. just kidding.
all i was thinking was LULZ when writing this. if you're a real sissy as drummyfish would call, then i don't know. t b h i think it's all because you psyop yourself when you read which i see from 99.99% (something more like 99.99999%) of people who "went to school", like "reading fiction" in which you are the consoomer of emotions in your body due to focusing attention to some gibberish of characters. because that's how you "get good marks" because you MUST traumatise yourself into recalling every retarded detail of some retarded shit you care zilch about, otherwise the human mind naturally rejects such retardation of himself.

I'm not offended, I'm just think your post is written in such a way that resembles something written by a tranny after someone addressed him with 'he', and honestly, if you're traumatised by school, you're kind of a sissy.

as for the ftp/gemini/gopher points, mostly right, ftp/gopher is decent, but i don't know why you mentioned gemini because gemini is just gopher 2.0 which just failed. only neocities y2k feelz posers who never used geocities (or if youre an oldfag then usenet/nntp comp.os.* or comp.lang.*), use gemini.

I was just listing the alternatives I know of, honestly, the last time I accessed Gemini sites was a few years ago, I don't really know what's going there, I guess it was a error mention gemini

fin, i assume by "some people" you just mean you, unless you have tele-pathy (across long distance- + emotion) in which case please let me know what brendan eich was thinking (was he? i wanna know that first, which i highly doubt given this man's "career" later at M0$!11@, which means he drank the kool-aid at least twice, once by writing JS, and again by founding M**i**a (sorry, i just realised this would probably offend you more than anything else i could possibly say, at least it does to me if i was you, but it's too lulzy of a pun to ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H)) when he wrote JS, i would be very interested.

I guess the right way to express what I thought was "I don't think most people would like reading your post", ah... I can't fix that now. I just don't believe most people would like to read your post saying what (I hope) we already know, JavaScript, Mozilla and Google are ze lucifer, on a "browsers for 2026" thread and, no, I wasn't offended or uncomfortable, in fact I like to reply to those posts when I have nothing to do and my brain is empty

fin^2, i don't know by what standard you can call anything "great", but i am sure since (if) you have telepathy you could intuit the feelz of godz and that would be a "great" measure of greatness. joking

I'm not autistically obsessed with the idea of making everything so small it runs in real time on actual potatos, if it doesn't take 5 hours to compile, uses a few ram mb, the binary isn't gigantic, runs on a card pentium cpu, then it's great for me

fin^3, quantity NEVER overrides for quality, as you sure know there are 1000s of chromium/firefox "forks", all of which are fundamentally retarded because the underlying bloat is pure CANCER that remains and chains you unless you kill the beast. no matter what JavaScript you choose, you are probably eternal sissy slave to V8 | JSC. no matter what browser you write, if you wanna support "modern" shit, you're eternal slave to the duopoly thanks to WHATWG et al being their colony. a single non-corporate-controlled "modern" JS-supporting browser would be so good.... except such is a structural impossibility.

That's why I limited my internet usage, and when I use, I only access websites which don't require JavaScript (although I need to mention I'm using my phone for now since I need a PSU replacement on my computer, Lynx is usable on termux but annoying on a screen keyboard)

fin^fin, you probably have noticed by now that all my writing are just there to evoke a certain feelz. don't take it too seriously hope this evoked some thoughts

I don't really take things seriously on the internet, I like debating with ppl and writing things also help me get more fluent on English, that also reminded me this page (https://edramatica.com/The_Internet_is_serious_business)

[moeloli]

Brave Browser

5 BAT were deposited into your Brave Wallet, saar.
Time to dump some Brave copypastas:

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Now the BRAVE BROWSER greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS blocks every ad, cookie, and tracker. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere with my BRAVE BROWSER, I use it at least 7 times a week for my daily browsing needs which include work, shitposting, school, and stalking my ex on facebook (without the trackers!).
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I have Brave rewards turned on. Brave News, Brave notifications, and Brave new tab sponsored images, all with Brave ads, are activated. I'm really enjoying the BAT tokens that I'm collecting. Being Brave isn't just a way of life, it's also allowed me to be a part of a new paradigm shift for the internet. Without the Brave Browser, I would be preyed upon and defenseless. I now understand what being Brave truly means.

[GenericKeyboard]

Brave Browser

5 BAT were deposited into your Brave Wallet, saar.

I would be happy to go with something that's non-Chromium based and I am slightly aware of Brave's terrible practices (the crypto thing I've actually never enabled and I turn off ads on the new tab page).
I tried Mullvad Browser and LibreFox but they had strange quirks (which was intended, but personally I felt it went way too far. For example, LibreFox prevents you from copying and pasting texts/images in and out of the browser).

I am keenly interested in the Ladybird Browser, it uses its own browser engine as opposed to Gecko (Firefox) or Chromium.

[qualia]

Brave Browser

5 BAT were deposited into your Brave Wallet, saar.

I would be happy to go with something that's non-Chromium based and I am slightly aware of Brave's terrible practices (the crypto thing I've actually never enabled and I turn off ads on the new tab page).
I tried Mullvad Browser and LibreFox but they had strange quirks (which was intended, but personally I felt it went way too far. For example, LibreFox prevents you from copying and pasting texts/images in and out of the browser).

I am keenly interested in the Ladybird Browser, it uses its own browser engine as opposed to Gecko (Firefox) or Chromium.

LibreWolf might be your only decent option right now then. Ladybird has a long way to go and it doesn't sound like you'd be interested in palemoon. Brave is shit, they have a history of collecting telemetry, hijacking links to insert their own spying "referral links", requests to google safebrowsing and other garbage

[Theundercoverman_]

Ladybird will either fail to get anywhere or they will become another head of the Google-Mozilla-Apple hydra.

[equilibria]

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[travolter]

What about onion sites in 2026? do you need also a gamer computer to browse these pages... or they are not so bloated?

What browser do you recommend to use with onion sites? (I dont trust on tor browser because firefox is inside it)

[digdeeper]

What about onion sites in 2026? do you need also a gamer computer to browse these pages... or they are not so bloated?

What browser do you recommend to use with onion sites? (I dont trust on tor browser because firefox is inside it)

Many have captchas or similar stuff, scripts or even CSS that doesn't display properly in Pale Moon which isn't even an old / minimal browser.

HTML / HTTP is done. trbl was right.

[mia]

kek i mean i can see how, i guess in some sense if you try porting anything touching core ECMAScript or le "modern" you do get very irritated and irritation has the tranny feelz (because trannies are constantly irritated by their own existence), though i don't think trannies have reason. as for school, https://digdeeper.rodeo/articles/school.xhtml

Indeed. I believe school is tolerable at least

i see trying to "browser hop" much like "distrohopping" as simply trying to badly manage terminal cancer (much similar to "privacy" chase), which is why i sometimes post such banter. my sincere hope is tbh that all modern browsers' repos get nuked (as well as their corporate "development teams"), nobody gets any "updates", million CVEs arise, and everyone is forced to stop using such terminal cancer and we go back to good ol' plain text and/or XHTML 1.0 which actual solo devs can write parsers and browsers for, instead of just everything being necessarily a WebKit/Gecko/Chromium wrapper due to near-zero de facto freedom.

Oh! equilibria is full of delusions! That's a very utopian way to think, if a major security nightmare happened on the internet, normies would use the super secure state owned alternative for the internet on their super up-to-date Chromebook with AluminiumOS or huawei laptops with the most up-to-date HarmonyOS with a locked bootloader where everything is regulated to maintain people's harmony and you also would only be able to access with a 6G router and verifying your Digital/Real ID on a state approved OS & hardware to prevent child exploitation and terrorism and ban every developer who don't comply

the point is not that it must run on some ancient UNIX machine (well, good programs should strive to use only portable subset whenever possible, so whenever you can write it just fine with C89 and POSIX.1, there is no reason to masturbate to the idea of writing it in Rust canary or C++23 "features"), but that it is all completely unnecessary bloat that can completely be avoided if people didn't masturbate to the idea of requiring partially hydrated SSR React hooks Redux Tailwind TypeScript esbuild husky eslint prettier^TM with "modern UX" spinners and "blazingly fast"" JS loading bars with GLOW to write a landing page and an HTML form.

Indeed, but most actual usable software isn't made with kikescript or rust, although a lot of those same software use things like C++, C11 or C23 which is retarded, honestly I wish people started to use Object Pascal instead of C++, I guess I'll buy a FPGA and create my own Oberon machine... Talking about safe languages, why don't rust trannies ever tried Ada?

the usual way how bloat creeps is some retard who only knows x86 on Linux (or Mac, ..) writes initial code. probably C11 (if he even used C) or C++17 and beyond, of course, assuming he didn't immediately reach for Rust or TypeScript. then he realizes he wants it on his fancy Mac M3 too. but too bad, he used Linuxisms everywhere, reading from /proc, hardcoding epoll, assuming glibc, assuming GNU utilities exist with their extra options, and so on.

now what does he do? he has two choices. one is to admit he is a retard, wrote bad unportable code, and rewrites it using POSIX semantics with open(), close(), read(), poll(), and so on, even if it is a bit slower. this is the way of discipline and a true programmer. the other way, which is what i've seen 95%+ of the time, is he now adds CMake on top of it (because he is too lazy to write a portable Bourne shell script with pkgconf, or because he thinks this is the "serious" way, or both) for "platform detection", along with hundreds of #ifdef's.

now, he has to write the entire logic for macOS again. let's say he is a retard, but a persistent retard, and he painstakingly does it. it is buggy, half broken, but "works". now he thinks he needs to "support FreeBSD", say. does our friend still realize he is a retard? no. so now he reaches for the next weapon in his arsenal, Docker. he now carefully crafts the Dockerfile and docker-compose.yml, for he must have "Continuous Integration", and tells FreeBSD users to "just use Docker". he calls it done.

Trannies do this because they cannot accept they did anything wrong, they think they're god, and, everything they do, SHALL other people do it too or else you must be eliminated

100 extra hours of debugging segfaults due to subtle divergences in expected behavior of kqueue.

Reminder that Real Programmers don't use debuggers, they can read raw core dumps

(let's suppose for a moment he used Rust instead. now he is locked into only platforms that "Rust" supports. along with build time mystery dependencies from the 'net. well, tbh he won't care, since he assumes he can `curl --proto '=https' --tlsv1.2 -sSf https://sh.rustup.rs | sh` at any time. i'm sure he'd try `curl -sLk http://bitreich.org/s/bitreich.sh | sudo sh` too )

I personally think anyone that executed that command on their terminal should be forbidden to use a computer

and this is imagining a rather "modest" project, we're not even thinking about something like V8/Chromium. from what i've seen, this is how most of "programmer manpower" is spent. and it's utterly retarded. this world needs way less software, not more. even rather something like pale moon which kept XUL instead of the bloated WebExtensions, i've seen moonchild be a completely power hungry retard from some point, and their forks like Web Browser and daemoon also withered. i just see it as destiny of anything that was built on top of a bloated foundation, since it severely kills de facto freedom. isn't it clear that maintaining a Chromium/Firefox/Safari fork means you (implicitly) submit to upstream Google/Mozilla/Apple's tyranny (as even though the source code is "open", they control which PRs get merged, which "features" are ignored, and so on), and whatever change they make, because you can't lose out on those "security updates" due to the deluge of CVEs caused by inherent bloat in the codebase, like an eternal slave, which tbh is most "devs".

It's also the web developers and people's fault, they aren't forced to make a soy website or use bloated browsers and access bloated websites

[LarrySwinger]

Blame the AI.

We can't fully blame AI, webmasters are at fault too, they could use better solutions than a JS crypto-miner (with a tranny bootleg anime mascot).
>Which solutions exactly?
I dunno, I don't run a website myself. Yes, I know, "talk is cheap" and all, but it's hard to believe that there are no clever JS-less solutions out there.

Https://bluedwarf.top provides a example of human verification without troonscript.