"Forced Age Verification Is Coming To Linux"

[mia]

I predict we'll see age verification built into the hardware, for example, the motherboard firmware might require proof of age before allowing the device to boot into the OS.

Definitely. Then after those things get produced for a few years, internet block on all other hardware.

We are getting closer towards that

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20qwz9xzr9o

[mia]

I predict we'll see age verification built into the hardware, for example, the motherboard firmware might require proof of age before allowing the device to boot into the OS.

I honestly don't really mind if this happens, because if it does, couldn't you just buy an older platform like AM3 or LGA 1155 and use them? I personally used a core 2 duo until my power supply exploded and destroyed such computer, if that didn't happened, I'd probably still be happily using it.

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I predict we'll see age verification built into the hardware, for example, the motherboard firmware might require proof of age before allowing the device to boot into the OS.

I honestly don't really mind if this happens, because if it does, couldn't you just buy an older platform like AM3 or LGA 1155 and use them? I personally used a core 2 duo until my power supply exploded and destroyed such computer, if that didn't happened, I'd probably still be happily using it.

The idea is that without some kind of token or whatever generated by the device, it won't be allowed to go onto the internet.

[mia]

The idea is that without some kind of token or whatever generated by the device, it won't be allowed to go onto the internet.

How do you think this may be implemented? If it's just some kind of token; I believe you could manage to pirate it from a whitelisted device and try to trick the router software to think your dell optiplex 390 is a verified Macbook Neo in some way

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Maybe like this

Sorry I don't know much about it myself, but that link seems to explain it well.

[GenericKeyboard]

I honestly don't really mind if this happens, because if it does, couldn't you just buy an older platform like AM3 or LGA 1155 and use them?

The idea is that without some kind of token or whatever generated by the device, it won't be allowed to go onto the internet.

Yes, the token system, I can imagine CAPTCHAs might implement this feature, they might require you to authorise access to the computer so they can generate a token and verify the authorised hardware.

Another method can be "upgrading" components of the internet to require newer hardware. For example, YouTube defaults to the VP9 codec, which is difficult for older CPUs to encode (such as Core 2 Duo).

Websites are incredibly bloated with trackers and JavaScript bloat, incentivising users to either get more powerful hardware or use the smartphone application alternative (smartphones are already .

Apple has already been caught purposely slowing down their older devices whenever new models came out, and when push comes to shove, websites owned by mainstream tech companies such as Alphabet (Google, Gmail, YouTube, etc), Meta (Facebook, Instagram, etc), and Microsoft (Outlook, Teams, LinkedIn, Github, etc) will update their websites to rely on artificial bloat in order to work (Day of the Bloat).

Normal users will just buy the newer and more powerful hardware, and deal with the age verification restrictions.

I personally used a core 2 duo until my power supply exploded and destroyed such computer, if that didn't happened, I'd probably still be happily using it.

Time is on the side of these proprietary developers, because old hardware dies out, leading to users having to move to newer and more restrictive hardware.

[mia]

Yes, the token system, I can imagine CAPTCHAs might implement this feature, they might require you to authorise access to the computer so they can generate a token and verify the authorised hardware.

wdym "might"?
https://cybernews.com/privacy/google-qr ... ved-phone/

Another method can be "upgrading" components of the internet to require newer hardware. For example, YouTube defaults to the VP9 codec, which is difficult for older CPUs to encode (such as Core 2 Duo).

you can encode/decode VP9 videos on older core 2 duo processors without any problems although it will be slower than a modern machine, I can see what you meant but this wasn't a good example.

Websites are incredibly bloated with trackers and JavaScript bloat, incentivising users to either get more powerful hardware or use the smartphone application alternative (smartphones are already .

you just need ublock origin and be more patient in this case :P

Apple has already been caught purposely slowing down their older devices whenever new models came out, and when push comes to shove, websites owned by mainstream tech companies such as Alphabet (Google, Gmail, YouTube, etc), Meta (Facebook, Instagram, etc), and Microsoft (Outlook, Teams, LinkedIn, Github, etc) will update their websites to rely on artificial bloat in order to work (Day of the Bloat).

this is more of a cell phone problem, i believe core 2 duos can even run (debloated) Windows 11.

Normal users will just buy the newer and more powerful hardware, and deal with the age verification restrictions.

And they might sell their older hardware for cheap :D
They have the right to give their IDs and biometrics to anyone they want, just like we should have the right to refuse it

I personally used a core 2 duo until my power supply exploded and destroyed such computer, if that didn't happened, I'd probably still be happily using it.

Time is on the side of these proprietary developers, because old hardware dies out, leading to users having to move to newer and more restrictive hardware.

I didn't mention, i bought this psu for an equivalent of 10 USD and used it for almost 3 years

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California law changed to exclude open source systems

Seems we win. For now.

[qualia]

Hope this at least opened some people's eyes to how cucked most of the mainstream distros are

[Theundercoverman_]

California law changed to exclude open source systems

Seems we win. For now.

Not necessarily. What will probably happen is all of the sites that comply will be forced to block all GNU/Linux users since they can't properly verify their age and I'm not sure how effective user-agent spoofing is these days.

[mocheryl]

Any clue why would majority jump on implementing this like there’s no tomorrow just because some state in the USA made a silly law about? It’s not like there isn’t anything else to work on.

Sure, there is nothing unusual about adapting software to fit some legal framework, but that’s mostly for in-house solutions and maybe enterprise stuff. This isn’t needed for nearly 100% of FOSS out there. So what exactly is the motivation to spend effort on implementing this misfeature?

[LoadingXML]

Any clue why would majority jump on implementing this like there’s no tomorrow just because some state in the USA made a silly law about? It’s not like there isn’t anything else to work on.

Sure, there is nothing unusual about adapting software to fit some legal framework, but that’s mostly for in-house solutions and maybe enterprise stuff. This isn’t needed for nearly 100% of FOSS out there. So what exactly is the motivation to spend effort on implementing this misfeature?

For me, I would go for this age-verficaition / ID-verficiation thing, its pros are amazing, think:

1-No trolls, everyone will be fully responsible for what they say
2-No bots, you can fake as much IDs
3-No children, obviously, which makes the internet a better place
4-Stability, when conspiracy theoriest and other activists disappear from social media and so on, the country becomes more stable


Thus, assumeing you don't have an issue with goverinment control (which you shouldn't anyway), then this feature would be a gem.

[moeloli]

Any clue why would majority jump on implementing this like there’s no tomorrow just because some state in the USA made a silly law about? It’s not like there isn’t anything else to work on.

Sure, there is nothing unusual about adapting software to fit some legal framework, but that’s mostly for in-house solutions and maybe enterprise stuff. This isn’t needed for nearly 100% of FOSS out there. So what exactly is the motivation to spend effort on implementing this misfeature?

Because the Linux and open source cummunity are lawfag soyboy faggots and/or because Linux is run by corporations/the CIA.

For me, I would go for this age-verficaition / ID-verficiation thing, its pros are amazing, think:

1-No trolls, everyone will be fully responsible for what they say
2-No bots, you can fake as much IDs
3-No children, obviously, which makes the internet a better place
4-Stability, when conspiracy theoriest and other activists disappear from social media and so on, the country becomes more stable


Thus, assumeing you don't have an issue with goverinment control (which you shouldn't anyway), then this feature would be a gem.

You are the best goy.

[mocheryl]

Any clue why would majority jump on implementing this like there’s no tomorrow just because some state in the USA made a silly law about? It’s not like there isn’t anything else to work on.

Sure, there is nothing unusual about adapting software to fit some legal framework, but that’s mostly for in-house solutions and maybe enterprise stuff. This isn’t needed for nearly 100% of FOSS out there. So what exactly is the motivation to spend effort on implementing this misfeature?

Because the Linux and open source cummunity are lawfag soyboy faggots and/or because Linux is run by corporations/the CIA.

Corporations meddling and lack of testosterone in modern men is certainly evident, but I think there’s more to it than that.

Ever since IT became mainstream among the normies, we had to endure absurdities like renaming branches from “master” to “main” and naming your variables based on social impact instead of technical merit. I just shrug at these delusions and try to stay away from them as far as possible. I would have done the same with this one, but something made think about it more. In particular how communities that not only didn’t implement this age nonsense, but didn’t even discus about it, were suddenly “encouraged” to do so. For example, check the following post on the OpenBSD mailing list regarding this: URGENT: Age Verification Laws.

Anyone participating in these lists will notice that something is off. That panic-stricken tone to induce false sense of emergency that is made to scare people into conformation. Fortunately he was indirectly told to fuck off, but that is beside the fact. They used a similar trick when they tried to force Rust into the kernel (naturally, also told to fuck off and that time even directly), so its not like this is a one time occurrence. Just makes me think more and more how there is a group out there dedicated to gaining control over software step by step and other areas too.

Any clue why would majority jump on implementing this like there’s no tomorrow just because some state in the USA made a silly law about? It’s not like there isn’t anything else to work on.

Sure, there is nothing unusual about adapting software to fit some legal framework, but that’s mostly for in-house solutions and maybe enterprise stuff. This isn’t needed for nearly 100% of FOSS out there. So what exactly is the motivation to spend effort on implementing this misfeature?

For me, I would go for this age-verficaition / ID-verficiation thing, its pros are amazing, think:

1-No trolls, everyone will be fully responsible for what they say
2-No bots, you can fake as much IDs
3-No children, obviously, which makes the internet a better place
4-Stability, when conspiracy theoriest and other activists disappear from social media and so on, the country becomes more stable


Thus, assumeing you don't have an issue with goverinment control (which you shouldn't anyway), then this feature would be a gem.

What a harrowing coincidence. This kind of subversive comment is almost EXACTLY what I was describing. There really must be something to my theory.

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Corporations meddling and lack of testosterone in modern men is certainly evident, but I think there’s more to it than that.

Ever since IT became mainstream among the normies, we had to endure absurdities like renaming branches from “master” to “main” and naming your variables based on social impact instead of technical merit. I just shrug at these delusions and try to stay away from them as far as possible. I would have done the same with this one, but something made think about it more. In particular how communities that not only didn’t implement this age nonsense, but didn’t even discus about it, were suddenly “encouraged” to do so. For example, check the following post on the OpenBSD mailing list regarding this: URGENT: Age Verification Laws.

Anyone participating in these lists will notice that something is off. That panic-stricken tone to induce false sense of emergency that is made to scare people into conformation. Fortunately he was indirectly told to fuck off, but that is beside the fact. They used a similar trick when they tried to force Rust into the kernel (naturally, also told to fuck off and that time even directly), so its not like this is a one time occurrence. Just makes me think more and more how there is a group out there dedicated to gaining control over software step by step and other areas too.

Check out this suspicious "Dylan M. Taylor" character who went around projects trying to shove them age verification code, like here.