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Capitalism is a thing in all first world countries, whether you like it or not.
Basically to have any kind of land, any type of shelter or home, transportation method, etc you have to have money.

Now I want to live a free life. I don't want to be a wage slave or some soyentist academic working in a field so incredibly specialized and remote from real-life, he's basically an alien compared to normal people. But no matter how much I want to enjoy the present moment and experience real things in real life, I still need a place to live and things to eat.
Now, there are mobile homes and RVs. They have their charm, especially, because you aren't forced to stay at one place, but can enjoy complete freedom of movement and the ability to move to a different country on a day's notice.
The obvious issue with that is having to pay for gas. Not only is gas expensive, but also you need a constant supply of it, draining your savings rather quickly, if you aren't working every day.
Having a house with land is also great, but it requires to have some money to buy. The benefits are that you have very little monthly costs and can survive much longer on the same amount of money.
Flats in my eyes are completely useless, rented or bought, because they have little room for any real-life projects (you can't fix a car in your flat, neither can you grow your own vegetables or have your own livestock). The only benefit is that they might cost less.
Of course there is other stuff like squatting, but it's very unreliable, you might get kicked out + you have no electricity, water or internet.
All of the mentioned above require some money. The question is: how do you get that money? Especially when buying a house (assuming you don't have relatives who are willing to give you theirs for cheap), you need a solid amount.
Some jobs that don't require a degree are so low-paying there's nothing left to save up for anything like this.
Other jobs often require a college degree and I'm not subjecting myself to 3-5 further years of "education".
The IT field was usually the way to go, but with all these people fired and replaced by AI, is there still a place for non-specialists without phds or master's degrees?

So, what do you think is the best way to live and what job(s) you think are best for getting enough money to live that way?

>what do you think is the best way to live
if capitalism is a thing in the 'first world'/developed countries, you could always go to 'third world'/developing countries where it's less prominent, though i'm not sure how much of an option that is for most people (it's one that i have). i heard chad haag escaped to a forest in india in order to evade his student debts since the cost of living is lower down there. obviously there are some difficulties like the dangers (crime, climate, wildlife), less luxuries (for example, over here occassionally the current cuts out for a few hours), less development (roads are poor, walking along the road is a surprising luxury where i am now) but i think it's rather worth it for what you gain back, like the availability of food and raising food (seeing goats in town is rather common).
i've become a bit anti-social in current times, so i don't mind living a bit remotely, or in luxury where i'd be. attractive houses are more costly in money and potential crime, and the money you'd have to spend against that crime too. it's a bit common for people to have composite houses from scrap metal and stuff where i am. i don't particularly need or want much electronics, so a few solar panels would be good enough, as well as any containers such as barrels for rain water. all i'm unsure about is how paying for land works.
cars have too much drawbacks despite their advantages of carrying loads of items and people at first glance: licensing is a hassle and tracksyou, requires a lot more costly care via gas and repairments, no universal driving standard will piss you off and get you into conflicts (from what i've seen, drivers are dickheads and retards), constantly at the whims of authority depending on mundane shit such as parking (way more of a first world issue), it's all too complicated to deal with.
bikes are more free, in external costs (your legs are the gas, repairing is more easy, less confusion) and in where you can travel. however bikes and cars don't do well with each other, usually.

back where i regularly live, i'm still in a flat with people who are idiot consumerists/kleptomaniacs who fill the flat up with shit. even then there's still opportunities for us to grow bell peppers inside the house and tomates and callaloo outside (As well as borrowing people's backyards for potatoes, but that's IF you're social). if you're a madman by himself you could turn a room into an indoor growing space. livestock is very limited though, but you could get away with raising animals disguised as pets: rabbits, which are very quiet, certain fish like tilapias or... fucking rats lol.

what job(s) you think are best for getting enough money to live that way?
i wish i could answer this but i've never gotten consistent jobs (only one offs) as of yet, too much of a hassle. the people i live with are money vultures (to spend to inane bullshit) so i'm less motivated to look for anything.

My view is that there is no guarantee of freedom, because it will always be possible for someone the come and threaten it. So, what you must do is carve out your own niche in your shifting (political, economic) environment and find a way to make it work. Living more disconnected from "the system" is really beneficial.

You have to find and work with other people who have a similar concept, of whom there are many, but it's hard to do.

Now, to buy land there is a huge financial barrier, but if you and some others with the same idea can band together and buy a large (enough) piece of land, like a farm, you can split it up and live on it and build structures. Unfortunately you are cucked again by the capitalist system because you need to get permission to build your own house(?!?) and it must conform to building codes which are written to function within a narrow (capitalist) system. If you are crafty, you can build a hi-tech tent or very big shed and evade suspicion.

It's amazing what a difference it can make to live in a place with low population density as compared to high; laws limiting e.g. what you build on your land are much less substantial when they're harder to enforce due to literally having less people to report/check a violation or whatever.
Such limitations affect how you can run a business and interface with existing capitalist system (regulations especially), but they do not limit you essentially, as when living surrounded by consumerism, cameras, police, etc. Like jill talks about, getting out is a possibility. The problem is that you give up so much in exchange - however, what you give up is in some ways not real. Every additional capability you gain in ""civilization"" is hampered by so many conditions that it is impossible to do anything except in a few ways in which you are permitted to exercise your phony powers.

As for work, you have to think "laterally" or something, and appraise your particular situation (obviously). Being self-employed in a trade is really good. Care work is often feasible. Minimizing your expenses opens up your options of course, so if you can live in a trailer on someone else's land for small small rent that's useful, plus hippy chicks dig it. But this is getting very hobo-ey and approaching serfdom. Your community is more important than anything.

The important thing is that living (to some degree) outside the system provides makes you a link in a chain which preserves freer ways of living into the future, which is vital as it truly mitigates the system's errors. But, it does not get rid of the oppressive problems that have driven you out. I suspect that the path to actually changing the system requires some work from within, but it's becoming increasingly unimaginable that anything can be done.

I said "system" a lot.
This is probably a piece of shit writing. But it was good to get me thinking.